tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post117096145456074441..comments2024-03-28T09:14:52.110+00:00Comments on Sinclair's Musings: Proportional RepresentationMatthew Sinclairhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05948452770723874618noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1171159605377295772007-02-11T02:06:00.000+00:002007-02-11T02:06:00.000+00:00STV wouldh ave meant the tories wouldh ave got les...STV wouldh ave meant the tories wouldh ave got less seats in 1997 than the LIb dems which would seem to challege it's pr credentials. <BR/><BR/>The key point is coalition's in Britian are formed before (they're called the conservative and labour parties) not after as Matthew Sinclair has shown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1171044600932479902007-02-09T18:10:00.000+00:002007-02-09T18:10:00.000+00:00Matthew Sinclair wrote (STV) does suffer from the...Matthew Sinclair wrote <I>(STV) does suffer from the social harmony/accustomed to compromise problem.</I><BR/><BR/>You can get hung parliaments now, a lot of people think we are about to have one. Gets more likely with increasing disillusion with the main parties. Lots of people vote tactically and lots of people don't bother or vote for silly parties because they know their vote won't count. Parties pretend "the country" has voted for everything in their manifesto. So FPTP is a dreadful system. Even so it might be less bad than all the others (like democracy) but detailing the problems of PR ignores the many problems of FPTP. Since you've given the matter some thought, I'd be interested to see you address the particular problems of STV, which seems to me better than what we have now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1170976039008598852007-02-08T23:07:00.000+00:002007-02-08T23:07:00.000+00:00There is also so called Total Representation, and ...There is also so called Total Representation, and there are other possible reforms, as tode says.<BR/><BR/>Labour got fewer votes in England than the Tories in the last general election, but 286 seats to the Conservatives' 193.<BR/><BR/>The Tories should be proposing a system which is more democratic, but they are too feeble.John Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12989707573947742653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1170963222742663602007-02-08T19:33:00.000+00:002007-02-08T19:33:00.000+00:00It does suffer from the social harmony/accustomed ...It does suffer from the social harmony/accustomed to compromise problem.Matthew Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05948452770723874618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1170963093532914872007-02-08T19:31:00.000+00:002007-02-08T19:31:00.000+00:00There are different types of proportional represen...There are different types of proportional representation. STV doesn't suffer from the problems you describe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com