tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post117029889553157768..comments2024-03-28T09:14:52.110+00:00Comments on Sinclair's Musings: History and Nation, ContinuedMatthew Sinclairhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05948452770723874618noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1170354072068407602007-02-01T18:21:00.000+00:002007-02-01T18:21:00.000+00:00Jenya's contribution has been deleted. I'm afraid...Jenya's contribution has been deleted. I'm afraid that, while it was amusing, leaving adverts encourages others.<BR/><BR/>To Tode: You're a strange, strange creature. It's a pretty marginal grammar mistake if it is one at all and look at the sheer amount I write...<BR/><BR/>Meg, I'm not advocating teaching whitewashed history but that teaching British history in citizenship classes can be valuable and that such history teaching should include a discussion of national achievements. The problem my first post identified with Labour's proposal was that the proposed curriculum was entirely focussed on periods of national and ethnic strife. My disagreement with Gracchi is over whether teaching history can serve a useful purpose in bolstering nationalism.Matthew Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05948452770723874618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1170349661891447752007-02-01T17:07:00.000+00:002007-02-01T17:07:00.000+00:00Interesting Matthew you raise points I need to pon...Interesting Matthew you raise points I need to ponder. A response is coming.Gracchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06344262838391424797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1170338009614244712007-02-01T13:53:00.000+00:002007-02-01T13:53:00.000+00:00I agree with Jenya, you definitely need more PlayB...I agree with Jenya, you definitely need more PlayBoy in your blog.<BR/><BR/>I'm really not sure why you seem to think it's an all or nothing scenario-- I haven't read Gracchi's latest post on it but I thought the one about presenting historical people and events that had both positive and negative characteristics was right on the money. Learning about the bad things a person did or the unfortunate effects an event had doesn't mean we can't still appreciate them and often think the benefits outweighed the costs. Yes, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. I was taught this in school at the same time I learned about their many, many great, nation-building achievements. I'm not wild about some aspects of these guys, but I'm still proud that they founded my country. <BR/>There's no reason to think nationalism won't exist if you don't teach "History 101: Rah, Rah England!" People who are going to look at a "present both sides" version of history and choose to see only the "Britain is evil" side would've done that anyway. So teach what actually happened and let the rest of us have the chance to take pride in the ACTUAL history of our country and not the whitewashed version.<BR/>(I'm really enjoying this topic, by the way)Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03647941828092652736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21959228.post-1170336907961453702007-02-01T13:35:00.000+00:002007-02-01T13:35:00.000+00:00You readed what you writed before you bloggerd Eng...You readed what you writed before you bloggerd English? You clever thoughts deserve gooder writen. How about "Gracchi's and I's"? It would at least be wrong in a more consistent way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com